[PW] Re: copyright issues--PAL to NTSC

[Craig Miller]

I see you don't address the point that my comment is the 
only one that you see fit to require a citation for, and not 
for anyone elses.

My comment was superfluous, perhaps, to the original 
question, to which it was not responding.  The comment you 
decried was in response to a second message that brought 
up the topic of where and to whom the copied version would 
be shown.  My first message addressed the original issue of 
copying, replying to the original response, which said that, 
since she was "only" trying to break the format and region 
encoding, it wasn't a copyright issue.  

Yes, copyright is a very complicated issue.  Mel Nimmer, the 
font from whom all knowledge on copyright comes, once 
said that anyone who tells you they know everything about 
copyright is either a fool or a liar.  (We used to have his 
many volume treatise in the outer office when I was still with 
George Lucas.)  

No answer will address every possible permutation.  To 
expect such is folly.  I made an attempt to address the 
issues brought up in the discussion.  You seem to feel only 
comments applying to the original question are appropriate 
and not issues brought up in the attempts at answering.  

But if you are so much more an expert, please answer the 
questions raised.  I choose to stay out of it at this point.  I 
don't need to debate.  

Oh, and the US *is* a Berne Convention signatory, we just 
seem to have special allowances for things the companies 
here want to do.  The US government, in its wisdom, has 
passed laws that, among other things, reinterpret terms and 
conditions so the companies get rights that, by Berne 
Convention, should apply to the creators of works.  Moral 
rights.  Would that we were fully in accordance with the 
Berne Convention.  I'd be a wealthy man.

Craig.


At 03:37 PM 12/12/06 -0500, Peter wrote:
>Craig Miller wrote, inter alia:
>> No one else has cited any sources.  But I guess when you don't like the
>answer,
>> you have to attack the messenger.
>> 
>> Craig.
>
>Sigh ... no one is attacking you, just your assertion, unsupported by case
>law. There are, in fact, myriad cases concerning video copying, both in the
>US and Berne Convention countries. The one you have selected is not germane
>to the question.
>
>The California case that you "remember" is not on point, but merely supports
>the well-known principle that display of a licensed work in other than the
>forum for which it is licensed is prohibited. It says nothing about
>conversion of formats, home use or display of a converted copy of a
>legitimately obtained work.
>
>It's not that I "don't like the answer;" it's that it is superfluous.
>
>Peter
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