[PW] identifying a snake
petter at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 07:01:32 PST 2015
I agree that some of the photos on the web identified as "green night
adder" don't strongly resemble the photo of "my" snake
<http://imgur.com/H5jStDT>, for example this one
but that photo of the severed specimen
in the reptile database is certainly a close match. You may well be correct
that I'll have to settle for "tentative" in the absence of other evidence,
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Kay Lancaster <kay at hub.fern.com> wrote:
> On Sunday 2015-11-01 01:09, Petter Naess wrote:
> Thank you Kay, I'm almost certain that is correct, I think the required
>> grain of salt is really quite tiny! And am very grateful to know about the
>> "reptile database," what a resource!
> I'm not sure why this took so long to post, because I wrote and sent it
> about 9 hours previously. Oh well.
> Here's why I'm less than sure of that id:
> 1) Your specimen appears quite gracile, while the photographed specimens
> on the web appear fairly "stout" -- not gracile.
> 2) The reported maximum length is 75 cm; average specimen seems to be
> 30-60 cm
> 3) Color and banding in snakes can be variable. Here, for instance, is
> the US Armed Forces photo:
> 4) There is at least one other green snake in Sudan, Philothamnus
> angolensis, growing to a maximum of 1.2 m, averaging around 1.
> The photos I've found of this species appear more gracile.
> 5) Photo identifications are always tricky. In my own field of botany,
> there are many, many plants that I refuse to even try to id from a photo --
> you just can't see what you need to see to give a firm id.
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Kay Lancaster <kay at hub.fern.com> wrote:
>> I tentatively suggest it might be Causus resimus, green night adder or
>>> green night viper, based on a search of "snake" and "Sudan" in the online
>>> reptile database here: http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz
>>> Description here:
>>> Because the snake is out of context, and many of the identifying
>>> characteristics like pupil shape are not in the photo, and because I'm
>>> really a botanist and a confirmed non-herpetophile,
>>> take this tentative id with a very large grain of salt.
>>> The last entry in the synonomy list is for Laurent Chirio and Ivan Ineich
>>> in 2006, so I'd probably try to track one of them down and ask them to
>>> a look at the photo.
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