[PW] Drama Critic Motto: Leave no turn unstoned
d-lien University of Minnesota
d-lien at umn.edu
Sun Dec 3 10:51:14 PST 2017
The serial (under that name, as a merger of two earlier serials) began
with 7 December 1895, so the total window is a bit under four years.
Per WorldCat, Marquette (WI) also has the microfilm; and a few
libraries appear to have 1890s issues in hardcopy (or possibly in
microfilm instead/also): Free Library of Philadelphia (only
1895-1897, however); Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary (Overbrook, PA);
and the PA Office of Commonwealth Libraries (and the nonlibrary
Pennsylvania Newspaper Project, Northampton). Xavier University (LA)
reportedly has some holdings but did not list years.
I've indexed a lot of late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries
magazines for the Fictionmags Index project
and based on what I observed by doing so, I strongly suspect that the
DAILY NORTHWESTERN wouldn't have reached far back for their reprint of
the quip from the CATHOLIC STANDARD AND TIMES. Everybody was
swiping/repurposing filler material from everyone else, but generally
from very recent/current issues -- there was so much "copy" out there
that I can't imagine any editor taking time to build up a major
archive of "jokes to use someday" or thumbing through numerous back
issues of other magazines to look for the "perfect" wheeze to grab for
a given situtation.
I suspect the joke appeared in the most recent issue to hand in the
NORTHWESTERN offices of the CS&T (and that they wouldn't have used up
storage space keeping more than the most recent issue around anyway,
of that or of any other rival magazines, at least not of any but a
handful of the most famous/most widely-read ones). So I'd expect it
was from a July or August issue.
Dennis Lien / d-lien at umn.edu
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Even Hartmann Flood
<even.flood at gmail.com> wrote:
> Off topic, but cannot resist:
> Ogden Nash has a poem about disliking seabirds where he leaves no tern
> On 3 December 2017 at 17:17, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
>> The Quote Investigator website now has an entry about the wordplay in
>> the subject line which is often attributed to George Bernard Shaw.
>> The earliest pertinent evidence I've found is a joke containing the
>> phrase "they left no turn unstoned" in "The Daily Northwestern" of
>> Oshkosh, Wisconsin on August 29, 1899 with an acknowledgment to the
>> "Catholic Standard and Times". I haven't found a digital archive for
>> the "Catholic Standard and Times".
>> Chronicling America seems to say that University of Notre Dame in
>> Indiana has it on microfilm, but searching would be difficult because
>> the date above is simply an upper bound.
>> Reference works contain a 1950 citation for George Bernard Shaw and a
>> 1946 citation for Arthur Wimperis. The QI article has 1914 citation
>> for Wimperis but nothing earlier for Shaw.
>> Feedback welcome
>> Garson O'Toole
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